Jay from Project Unity posted an interview recently done by Garry Nolan. It’s quite interesting, and I recommend you check it out while it’s up — I have no idea if the video will get pulled down or not.
This was an interesting discussion. Garry Nolan dropped a few additional truth bombs, as it were. Right away, he stated that it was “one hundred percent” likely that ET is here visiting planet Earth, and most likely have been here for an extended period. He also made some strong statements about his knowledge of reverse engineering programs to study ET technology, essentially downed craft.
He followed up with several other themes, including the limitations of our understanding and the need for collaboration among various disciplines to advance our knowledge in this area.
Evidence Supporting Extraterrestrial Intelligence
When asked what evidence he would cite to support his belief that ET is already here, Nolan surprised me a bit and cited the establishment of the AARO Office within the Department of Defense. This, he said, is evidence that the government is taking the issue of extraterrestrial intelligence seriously. Goodness, I thought, that is weak, bro. You could have done much better, but then I realized that he is speaking to a certain audience: highly educationalized individuals in the university system. You’ve got to start somewhere, I suppose.
A bit more interesting to me was that he shared his experiences with individuals (unnamed but probably including Eric Davis) working on reverse engineering programs for downed craft, which he essentially stated are derived from advanced forms of ET intelligence. The fact that these programs exist, Nolan basically stated, suggests that there is probably truth to claims of extraterrestrial visitation.
The discussion also brought up the topic of materials recovered from downed craft. Nolan was very upfront here, albeit within the boundaries that he clearly set for himself. He seemed confident that physical material will be available for analysis in the future, presumably to support the possibility of extraterrestrial intelligence.
Limitations of Our Understanding
Throughout the conversation, Nolan emphasized the importance of analyzing data and keeping an open mind when it comes to the possibility of extraterrestrial life. You can see he was being very, very careful not to get trapped by a skeptical society and especially derided by other scientists. It’s not about the conclusions, he said, it’s about studying the data. No one can attack you if you are only studying the data!
Clearly much of his perspective was purely political in this sense. However, I think it is fair to say that, from his point of view, it highlighted the limitations of our current understanding of the universe and the potential biases that may hinder our ability to recognize evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence. Okay, fair enough.
For instance, Nolan pointed out that our current scientific instruments are designed to detect life as we know it, which may not encompass all possible forms of life in the universe. Therefore, he said, we need to continue researching and developing new technologies that can help us understand the nature of extraterrestrial intelligence and its potential implications for human society. All this is basically the expression of platitudes, but that seemed to be demanded by the environment he was in for this interview.
Essentially, before we come to any firm conclusions, we need to keep studying the data!!
Collaboration Among Various Disciplines
Which led to one of the key messages in the discussion: the need for collaboration among experts from various fields to advance our understanding of extraterrestrial intelligence. He talked about the “professionalization” of the UFO/UAP field. We’ve been hearing this elsewhere (Lue Elizondo, for instance).
Nolan emphasized the importance of engaging scientists of different disciplines such as anthropology, sociology, physics, and so on. Bring in different perspectives and you are better positioned to achieve a groundbreaking discovery.
There was also some discussion about the need to destigmatize the conversation around extraterrestrial intelligence. That of course would be a helpful development. You can see the baby steps he needs to take in these conversations.
Speculation on the Nature of Extraterrestrial Visitors
I thought it was interesting that Nolan discussed a few different hypotheses about the nature of any aliens that might be here. I have to say he went into some interesting areas: future AI or future humans, self-replicating machines (Von Neumann probes), or advanced beings using intermediaries to interact with humans. Of course, I don’t recall him actually saying “beings from another planet.” I think I must have missed that part. Perhaps that’s too simple?
Well in fact I suppose he really did. After all, he did state the possibility that extraterrestrial intelligence might use intermediaries or advanced technology to observe and interact with us. I got the feeling that this is what he currently believes. And in fact while he did that he raised questions about the potential influence of these visitors on human culture and history. He actually said they have influenced human society already, something I concluded a long time ago also. He didn’t really go into any level of depth here, but it was interesting that he raised a few different possibilities.
It was interesting to hear Nolan with his interviewer. You can see that there are segments of the population that are just beginning the journey of considering that UFOs may in fact be real. This is something new for many educated folks.
For those of us having studied the subject for some time, we are well ahead of them in thinking about such things. But you can begin to see the wheels turning in other parts of our society. I really do think some of these people are wondering, perhaps for the first time, that if extraterrestrial intelligence exists and has visited Earth, they might need to rethink certain aspects about humanity’s place in the universe and our understanding of the cosmos. At least for starters. No discussion of conspiracies just yet. That remains well into the future, I suspect, if it ever even comes into focus.
Nolan entertains some utopianism that I just don’t buy any longer. He talked about the potential for revolutionary advancements in technology, something we’ve heard for decades now (“make the deserts bloom”). Yeah, no. I am really becoming doubtful of humanity’s ability to use advanced tech in ways that actually preserve ourselves, preserve the beauty of this world, and ensure our long term ability to thrive. I hope Nolan is right and I am wrong.
I think the conversation was good, and Nolan made some interesting and powerful statements. For sure his “one hundred percent” statement struck me as very helpful and well said. Ditto his comment about knowing for sure about reverse engineering efforts currently underway regarding alien craft. That’s some pretty powerful stuff there.
While I have some issues with how Nolan presented some of his opinions, we each have our own way to talk about this phenomenon, and I’m not going to tell him how to talk to a group of academic newbies. Therefore, well done.