A few weeks ago, Lue Elizondo did a very interesting interview with Curt Jaimungal for Curt’s excellent Youtube Channel Theory of Everything. I personally thought this interview was interesting enough that I took notes throughout most of it and wanted to clean them up and share those here with you.
Also, I just spent the last two days doing a long overdue re-review of Raymond Fowler’s classic work on the Betty Andreasson Luca abduction history, and will be preparing something similar here regarding that. But for now, let’s take a look at some interesting statements made by Lue in this interview, the full version of which I have linked here.
I do wish I had included timestamps for these statements but only did so for a few of the statements. However, I am including everything here in the order of the interview, so hopefully it won’t be too difficult to find the spot in you are looking for in the actual interview.
Here are Lue’s various statements that I personally found interesting. At the bottom is my summary of what I think he is saying.
UAP are known to engage in cloaking activity.
Orbs – somewhat evasive in describing them, but mainly because as he points out they can encompass many different distinct phenomena. Believes they are sometimes “real” UAP although they were not discussed at AATIP.
Every interview he’s done has left “breadcrumbs” for attentive listeners.
He has explicitly been warned not to discuss classified information. There are people in the Pentagon who were not happy about what he did in going public with UFO/UAP information. He was also warned that he would be labeled as crazy or worse. He knows is walking a very fine line. “There are wolves circling around the fire.”
He mentions exactly the scenario that I [RD] was given by another ‘insider’ many years ago. That is, that competition among contractors is inherently unfair because not all get equal access to “exotic” material. Years ago, my source told me that this was a genuine concern with UFO Disclosure, since such practices could invite serious law suites from disadvantaged defense contractors. Elizondo says nearly the exact same thing here, that UFO/UAP secrecy potentially gives some companies major advantages over competitors and therefore massive government contracts down the road. Elizondo refers to this scenario as “hypothetical,” but again this is exactly what was told to me more than a decade ago. I consider it entirely possible that the same person discussed this with Elizondo. If this is true, and to me it makes perfect sense, we can see another dimension to the problems of UFO Disclosure: that some companies have a great deal to gain from it while others have a lot to lose.
He believes UFOs are not a new phenomenon. And then makes an intriguing suggestion, leaving possibly another breadcrumb: that DNA sequencing and modification is something that would last for a potentially extremely long period of time, and which would have a higher chance of being noticed by an advanced future society (like our current civilization) than even something like the pyramids. Is this a hint about something he knows? As always, Lue gives hints but nothing really to bite into. Is there something in our DNA that we can examine? He delves more into the possibility of genetic modification of humanity later in the interview.
“… Material related to this topic that has been recovered” [timestamp 49:45] “That’s all I can say about it.” So, yet another strong suggestion from Elizondo that someone or some organization, presumably related to the United States government, has recovered UFOs or related technology.
“We can provoke reactions from them.” [RD: I think this is a direct quote but if not it’s very close.] Hence, he believes this is anotherjustification for referring to them as craft, and not merely as some sort of natural phenomena or even artificial but etheric phenomena.
“There are very compelling photos that seem to show something inside, some kind of occupancy. And I’ll leave it at that.” [RD: Again, I think this is probably an exact quote.] Elizondo then says it can get “murky,” but he has spoken to a number of individuals that apparently have persuaded him that this is real, that occupants to these craft have been photographed. When Curt asks to clarify what Lue meant by murky (eg. bad quality photo, unclear provenance, etc.), Lue essentially says all of the above, which I suspect was simply a convenient answer for him to give. [RD: Of course UFO history is filled with very compelling witness testimony about seeing occupants inside these craft, both from the vantage point of being outside the craft as well as inside the craft.]
States that we need to offer amnesty from criminal prosecution for truth tellers and whistleblowers on this subject.
We need government transparency on the matter of UFO/UAP.
States that secrecy is “abused for the wrong reasons.” I imagine he got a bit tied up in speaking but we know what he means. States he is a big fan of Harry Reid and Marco Rubio.
Asked about the “hitchhiker effect”. Seems to indicate that he knows of something vaguely like this – which refers to a potentially paranormal phenomena in which the person is “followed” by “something” after an initial encounter with strange phenomena. Skinwalker Ranch comes to mind. But Elizondo is quite vague and does not go into detail. He does say absolutely “yes” at one point, however.
Asked about “The Adam and Eve event,” which he stated he had heard of but did not know about it. [RD: I don’t know what this is.]
Asked about AAWSAP vs AATIP. Explains that the latter was a subset of the former. The former went defunct but the latter remained.
Asked about remote viewing. Essentially declines to discuss it, almost seems to imply that he doesn’t think much of it, but he’s not clear. [RD: I would personally be shocked if he truly was not impressed by remote viewing. I strongly suspect he is holding back here, big time.]
Asked if disclosure is a good idea and are we perhaps poking a hornet’s nest by attempting it? His answer: if there is a hornet’s nest there, it’s probably a good idea to know it exists.
Asked about Trans-medium travel. He suggests that this might even be possible through rock, not merely space, air, and water. He does state that he lacks the math knowledge to understand how this happens. But he does give it a seemingly strong endorsement.
Asked, have there been biological samples recovered from craft? Lue rephrases the question: “have there been biological samples recovered? Yes.” [Timestamp1:16:45]. Beyond this, he is clearly being purposely vague.
Also states that the notion that UFOs move through space and time and hence not really as our Newtonian common sense implies is “right on the money.”
Seems skeptical about the claims of Angelique, who has recently claimed there are aliens underground in eastern California.
At around 1:30:00 [approx.] he begins to talk about how human beings catapulted to the top of the food chain around 70K years ago. He asks, what if it turns out that there’s another species that’s even higher on the food chain? Would we then need our institutions, our government, and so on, if it were to turn out that there’s something else or someone else that is higher up than we are? We think we were the zookeeper, he says, but are we just another animal in the zoo? Elizondo does state explicitly there’s going to be a point in the “conversation” in which “we are going to have to reconcile certain things.” He appears to be saying that we are going to have to come to terms with that fact that there are more powerful beings here who are essentially running our world. His reference to humans of 70,000 years ago is interesting to me, considering my recent strong interest in human pre-history. He does seems to suggest that we may have been tampered with, or more accurately enhanced, at around that time, and seemed to imply that he was given information by people who he trusted. This of course is not radically different from the idea I put forward in my last book, The Alien Agendas, based on the speculation of my late friend, Dr. Colleen Clements. My best guess was that we might have been enhanced around 45,000 years ago. I should add that there are certainly times when I don’t know if I even believe the theory, especially as I learn more granular-level detail about that period of our history. Frankly, I am just not sure, but I do think it’s possible. I also think it’s possible that our rapid evolution stems from our increasingly powerful ability to reshape our physical environment, which in turn affects our biology. Anyway, it’s interesting that Lue puts this idea out there.
Makes a strong criticisms of charlatans in the field who take other people’s money. He mentions no names but it’s fairly obvious who he is referring to. Talks about pride, ego, and narcissistic behavior, even using the word sociopathic. States that there are always fibers of truth in a blanket of lies. [RD: I thought that was a good quote.] But he states that such people try to convince everyone that they and they alone have the truth. [RD: Yes, this happens in our field, as we all know.]
Seems to acknowledge that at least some reports of cattle mutilation are truly anomalous.
Asked about the possibility of the cryptoterrestrial hypothesis—that these have been living here in some manner all this time. He “can’t say no.”
Asked about Project Serpo and declines to comment referring to it as pure speculation. [RD: Hmmm!]
Asked if he has had any “holy shit” moments in his history dealing with UAP. Answers, yes, quite a few.
Acknowledges at least some of the history of past government intimidation of UFO witnesses.
I wouldn’t necessarily say this is the best or most informative interview Elizondo has given, but it’s probably up there. As always, he give me the impression at least of being someone who is doing his best to answer the questions put to him respectfully and truthfully – to the best of his ability. It’s obvious he is holding back a great deal of what he knows, and in fact he makes this clear explicitly a number of times. Throughout the interview, I would say.
A few important takeaways that I think we can make if we are willing to read between the lines, and not even with much difficulty:
There are [probably multiple] retrievals of UFOs or UFO technology.
There has also been the retrieval of biological material, but [not necessarily?] from craft. That’s an interesting twist. I would personally add that the history of UFO research gives us strong reason to believe that we have indeed recovered craft and bodies from those craft. But Lue’s statement does at least strongly imply that we’ve got biological samples of aliens around there somewhere.
Based on the various statements he has made of these UAP, it seems obvious that there has been a great deal of interaction between our military and these objects.
They are operating on levels that are vastly higher and more advance then we are. Tis might even include their ability to move with relative ease through solid rock, and much more. Moreover, that at some point we are going to have to have a difficult public conversation about this reality.
In addition, his hints about genetic modification of human beings seems to suggest a version of the famous statement by Charles Fort: “I think we’re property.”
There was no discussion about the possibility of alien abductions, which (unless I completely missed it) seemed like a huge oversight. In fact, I am not aware of any strong public statement by Lue Elizondo about abductions. It seems to me that the subject’s absence causes it to looms ever larger.
The overall effect of his hints and various definitive statements make it clear that he believes humanity is facing a serious challenge. Still, he maintains a good public face to encourage us to continue seeking answers. How much of that optimism is real is another story, and I have no idea.
I find Luis Elizondo to be fascinating to listen to. Moreover, having listened to him many times, and having spoken to him directly, as well as corresponded with him and his wife, I believe him to be a genuinely good and decent human being who has frequently been smeared by groups and people who have their own agendas — all while accusing him of having a dark agenda. For my part, I don’t buy it. I think Lue is doing his level best to get genuine information out to the public in a way that he feels is responsible but most importantly that keeps him legally safe.