Fade2Black Interview w/Jimmy Church

By | August 6, 2026

 

Hi Everyone,

I will be a guest tonight with host Jimmy Church for his program Fade2Black. 

Not knowing in advance what he may want to discuss, I am going to guess it will have something to do with current developments in our happy little community. The program begins at 7 pm PDT (10 pm EDT) and goes for 2 hours. 

In other news, I am wrapping up a quick but fruitful research project and intend to post the article here, almost certainly tomorrow. This concerns a bit of behavioral analysis of UFOs during two specific years: 1952 and 2004. As you probably know, I did a fairly large behavioral analysis of USOs while researching that project. I have remained very curious as to whether aerial UFOs follow the same patterns. 

Well, you will find out the answer when I publish the results here. This is merely a preliminary study. It is based on my own personal database, one that I have built over several decades. For this study, I had access to roughly 150 UFO cases from 2004, and another 120 from 1952. So at least enough to look for some patterns. 

And I did indeed find quite a few. 

If you can tune in to my show with Jimmy, I will do my best to make it worthwhile. And don’t miss my article to be posted tomorrow. I’m sure I will follow up  later with a video describing it all. 

Richard 

 

 

10 thoughts on “Fade2Black Interview w/Jimmy Church”

  1. NoStyleDutch

    Listening right now. Jimmy’s push back about nda’s is pretty brutal to listen to. He’s taking such a flippant approach (despite him saying it isn’t) to them and seemingly to the non-legal retribution whistleblowers can face and have faced. You’re saying all the right responses and he just refuses to accept them. I think his views are representative of the ufo community at large though, which is frustrating.

    Imagine for any whistleblowers under NDT’s listening to that talk are experiences similar, but greater, feelings I had in my mma days when people would criticize fighters having never stepped into the cage.
    Also, I would speculate that nda’s don’t outright mention ufos and beings outright, but rather keep it vague to things like “the events of” whatever date.

    Additionally, saying the public would galvanize and protect a whistleblower is so naive. The masses have proven themselves to be not only overly skeptical and dismissive as you pointed out, but also largely apathetic to the topic. Heck, I know people who think the David Grusch interview and 2017 articles were the goverment actually admiting to ufos being real and alien. The ufo community seems to be in a bubble that doesn’t realize it’s a bubble.

    1. Richard Dolan Post author

      Oh yes, that was a bit of a challenge! Once we got into it, I remembered this wasn’t the first time he offered that opinion. I think he and I had this discussion before. And yes, I agree that it’s not a serious argument. I do enjoy talking with Jimmy, and I enjoyed last night, but your observation, in my opinion, is right on.

  2. Greg Marose

    I recall Wilson Davis Island was a one-man destination for a while. I think this platform and related priorities may have even been a source for discussion about a couple pages before 2019-2020 (but cannot recall 100%). I don’t remember Jimmy around the memo that early, though I recall some deep dives on F2B circa 2021-2022. Maybe it was the Alien Vodka fueling memories around this and Alec Baldwin 🙂

  3. itsmeRitaC

    Hi Richard I’m listening to the interview but I’m only well at the 25 minutes in. I have this to say and I’ve said it for how long I can’t remember anymore LOL. Edward Snowden was a whistleblower. And he didn’t sit with all his ndas and clearances and wine about it he did something that he thought was important and we know what happened to him. That’s a whistleblower in my opinion. These other guys are people that got permission to talk that’s not a whistleblower it just isn’t. Even Dan Sheehan admits or says that what we have seen with these UFO hearings are not whistleblowers.

    I don’t know why we need to even use that label because that’s not what they are so why not just call them something else instead? Anyway I’ll keep listening 🙂

  4. itsmeRitaC

    Hi I’m continuing finally to listen to more of this interview. I’m glad you mentioned Julian assange of course. And that is the point. I mean not in terms of the exchange you had with Jimmy that’s not the area I’m going to go to. And I will include Snowden and John kariaku and I know I got the spelling wrong :-). Just to throw in a few.

    What’s the difference between these guys and the people I see sitting in Congress who all got approval first. I think it has to do with character and courage and conviction and heart. And I know that people will not like this. I predict no one will if they read it. However, they were willing to go all the way because they felt that there was mans and humanity to man at stake on the most basic levels. Take it in many levels but they had depth of character. So to be honest I’m just going to say again that a whistleblower to me is practically sacred. As a matter of fact I would say that Scott Ritter had more guts than these guys do. But hey that’s me.

    You know what I don’t trust people who have done what I would consider deeply destructive acts to human beings all over the world. I don’t believe that they suddenly love me and want me to evolve so I know the tru truth of the universe… Sorry but this is not a good time for me as far as people in the department of war and the administration and Congress goes… I apologize to all Rita has never claimed to be a patriot which seems to go along a lot with the whole field at this point… Thank you! Rita

    1. Richard Dolan Post author

      Hi Rita. The notion of trust is, well, I just think your attitude (which I sympathize with) isn’t the way I think about the matter. My attitude is, why should I care if so-and-so gives a crap about me and my beliefs if I judge their information to be accurate? To me, this is an entirely different matter. I don’t “trust” people. I do however try to examine their claims, no matter who they are. That’s just my approach. Trust or how much I respect someone is entirely different.

  5. itsmeRitaC

    Thanks for responding Richard. We can agree to disagree or see the world differently. Anyway speaking of trust then do you believe David grush when he tells Dr Phil, and I can’t even believe I’m using that name here… Do you believe that Dick Cheney as vice president was involved with torturing ET? I mean he said it and people believe him all the time in this field so I’m guessing you have to believe it. He got that information the same way he gets other information he’s not a first hand witness he talks to people and this is what he found out. Just makes me think about the torture and rendition program and the taxi to the dark side and who exactly we know of in the UFO community that was involved with these activities. Anyway I’d really love your response to this. Thank you Richard!

    By the way did you know that Dr Phil is also contracted to be the public relations person to the American people as far as the US taking over Greenland is concerned. I should say he’s tired by that Texas based Greenland oil expedition drilling company that already brought its equipment over there without consent. So I guess Dr Phil who lost his license years ago for fraud is going to be the go-to man in America for trust now. I can’t make this stuff up and I have a darn good imagination.

    1. Richard Dolan Post author

      Hi Rita, Thanks for the info on Dr. Phil. I honestly never followed him and just assumed he was another made-for-TV “therapist”. Supposedly he’s genuinely into the UFO subject now but … I am more inclined to follow your reasoning on that. The Texas oil connection honestly doesn’t surprise me. Regarding Grusch and Cheney — the thing about Grusch is that I often don’t really know how he knows what he says he knows. Overall i give him high credibility but I suspect that at least some of the things he says are real are based on what he has heard through the UFO community grapevine. I do believe much of his info comes from his government work. But the Cheney connection, I have to say I just have no idea.

  6. itsmeRitaC

    I just want to say this and thanks a lot really for your response was very thoughtful. Isn’t the definition and I’m not being sarcastic honestly, of a limited hang out exactly the fact that there’s true information and false information mixed together? So I’m not sure how I can discern at this point what’s real and what isn’t if I trust the source thanks again Rita.

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